Guest Account

[tosalet]

I seem to have managed to lose the Guest Account option on the login page somehow even though the Guest Account option is selected in Systems checkout settings?

[abantecart]

Did you do any edits?
NOTE: If you try to access customer area, there will be no Guest Account option.

[tosalet]

I have certainly done some editing but as far as I recall only language definitions, header/footer templates and the stylesheet.

I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean by the customer area?

[abantecart]

Customer area is a customer account pages. These are pages to access account information, order and change details. If you try to access these pages directly, you will see log in or register page and no Guest Account option.

[tosalet]

I presume you are referring to the customer area in the admin pages. Even when logged out of admin, the store login page does not display the guest account option.

The only other editing I have done was to modify the storefront/controller/pages/account/create.php and the storefront/model/account/customer.php files at your suggestion to remove the requirement for a customer to include a telephone number.

I have also tried replacing these files with the originals but with no effect on the login page.

[Nimitz1061]

He is referring to customer account areas in the catalog.

You will see the register, guest checkout and login options on the login page when trying to reach the checkout.

You will only see the register and login options when trying to reach customer account specific pages like My Account.

Example: 

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https://www.exampledomain.com/index.php?rt=account/account  will show the page with only two options.

while 

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https://www.bathsafetyfirst.com/index.php?rt=checkout/shipping will show all three, provided that you have a product in your basket.

David

[abantecart]

Thank you David for clarification.

[tosalet]

At last the penny has dropped! I didn't realise that it required an item in the cart.  Obvious really, sorry for wasting your time - and thanks.

[tosalet]

Thinking further on this, I would still prefer to have the guest option available without the customer having to place an item in the cart. Is it possible to provide that?

[Nimitz1061]

I would say it is pointless to do so.

Unless a visitor is checking out or logging in, there is no point to differentiating between them and any other visitor.  More importantly, there is no logical basis on which to do so.

IP?  Nope.  Some IP addresses are shared.

Cookie?  Well, already holds session for visitors and registered clients alike.  Could hold a flag to do so, but again, whats the point?  Are you suggesting that the cart should present a query as to whether someone wants to be a guest or not and flag the cookie in response?  Why?  The fact that they are there and viewing pages, makes them your guest.

David

[tosalet]

Thank you, but my point is that many people dislike opening accounts at all - they just want to buy something.

I can see no reason to deny them that option, without having to place something in the cart, since it exists anyway but is simply not displayed.

But if it is too difficult to achieve; then so be it.

[Nimitz1061]

I understand your point.

Do you understand that there is NO WAY to tell the difference between those who do want and account and those who don't before they take some action to communicate their decision?

Do you understand that the decision is pointless if the cart is empty?

If you are concerned about the use of the word account, change it using the language management system.  There is no point to any code changes.

[tosalet]

Thank you, but actually you are missing the point. Never mind, I will find a different solution.